Showing posts with label Cherilea Spacemen. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cherilea Spacemen. Show all posts

Thursday, July 13, 2023

Everybody Ripped Off Archer: Downsized Knockoff 1950s Archer Space Person Figures


I always go for the smaller sized stuff and upon learning various entities had fabricated reduced size versions of the classic four inch Archer Plastics space figures I was hooked. Have only found a few and some rate as favorites of the whole collection. I've enjoyed using the change in scale as a way to mess with perspective in artful pix of them, and many scale well with the Cars of Tomorrow vehicles Archer excelled at. Can't believe nobody thought of combining them into playsets.

And while being enamored with them I've always wondered how they came to be, a trait inherited from mom who was a library sciences archivist. We live for dates, names, connections, something I project onto my collecting. I also grew up in the 70s and 80s when there was more regular oversight of toy production and companies observed fair business practices unless they were China. So I'd always presumed there must have been a certain amount of cooperation between Archer and the different companies who pressed small scaled rehashes of their figure designs, and sat down to learn about it.


One company likely did, a pioneering British toy soldier company called Johillco. They produced a marvelous set of smaller scaled Archer figures in lead with painted details, fitted helmets, and an admirable enough attention to detail to suggest Archer themselves may have been involved. Johillco's boxed sets had the entire Archer crew and then some. If my understanding was correct were only made for export to North America, which resulted in this copy mayhem later on.

The two above made by followup company Cherilea Toys from the Johillco mold are among my favorites from the whole space bling collection. Well made, decently balanced on pod feet with admirable restraint shown in how they were decorated. I also think they look better in their helmets than the Archer figures do, most of whom I can see as "complete" without them. These would be sadly incomplete without helmets and I look after both with great care.


Cherilea marks across their backsides. So these two could be regarded as authorized, though there is no mention of any interaction between Archer and Cherilea in Blast Off! (2001). They inherited the mold, added their mark and kept making them. Fair enough.


Right arm is not raised to the degree the Archer figure's is but the rest of the pose is well translated.


Force Field guy leans forward a bit more and isn't as stout. Almost looks like he might be about to jump.


Larger Archer originals with reduced size versions by Tudor Rose. Which came in two sizes: Small, and smaller. If my understanding of the text from "Blast Off!" is correct Tudor Rose did not begin making their downsizers until 1957, by which time Archer Plastics had reformed as an educational toy company. Part of their compulsion to produce them was high demand for the Johillco space figures boxed up for export. So they just started making them from house-designed molds, some of which do a better job of approximating the larger figures than others.


The smaller size, no markings. The other size figures are marked.


Tudor's downsized Premier stacks up well to his fullsize version.


The Sentry is just sort of there. Smaller one coated with a semi metallic glaze, likely inflicted by a prior owner. Pretty sure they were meant to have the full rifle the blue Glencoe copy behind them carries. Mine don't.


I like the smaller blue figure, his big brother comes off as sloppy and very poorly balanced.


Now with green translucent Cracker Jack copy missing its charm lanyard ring.


That's the pose, and it's the Cracker Jack mini Archers that really make me scratch my head. You'd think they'd have noticed? Or someone mention "Dude, your spacemen are now Cracker Jack prizes and they made three million of them."


Rifle guy pose is more obvious including the triangular stance and upward angle at which the rifle is held.


They even copied the suit tanks. Did Bob Genin know about this? Was there any interaction between the two companies? It's thinking that even Cracker Jack took them to the cleaners that is most disillusioning. They made enough of them so that even today they are a common e-b4y find. Keep putting off landing more, wide range of colors and opaqueness.


Cracker Jack robots up front with Empire "Touchdown" robots, a Magic Robot game board figure and assorted Archer robots. How they got those heads off took effort.


The Walker pose, named (for my own reference) after Lee Marvin's character from the 1967 crime thriller "Point Blank". Now there's a movie.


More Walker poses including the figure in blue from the soft plastic Satellite Men group, which means it can't be a girl. But it's the same basic Archer pose re-worked for the hard plastic Men of Mars group, who don't mention anything about girls either. 


Just has super pretty eyes for a spaceman. And good at math.


I can take pictures of these things all day.


Empire Plastic's near comical Force Field guys. They just made em. No mention of any connections.


Some odd differences between the two smaller. These shown here all soft plastic but an earlier hard plastic version was made as well, with colors in your standard hard plastic spaceman ranges of metallic shades. Did Archer knew they made buckets and buckets and buckets of them for every gumball machine on the east coast? Five cents each, times a couple million. You'd want to know.


I used to think the Tudor Rose figure at left was a pretty snappy looking approximation of Archer's Walker. Now he looks like a droopy drawered punk from Brixton alongside the better proportioned Cherilea. 


Yeah I know, the right arm. Haven't a pix of the full Cherilea set onhand, they may have done another with the arms at exact matching angles. Wasn't bent. More I see that pale green the more I like it. Has that Lost Russian Cosmonaut thing going on.


Perspective studies, all vintage. It matters.


Orange and blues are Glencoe reissues.


Now we're just posting pix cos they're cool and no other plans for them exist. With Magic Robot game board piece. I guess they just went ahead and made a million of him too?


Up on their asteroid, looking for more suckers to come along.




Archer Spaceboy cleaned up real good for a new Family Snapshot. Space Girl looks a tad larger in scale to the guy. I know the lady with the Space Baby should be his match but lack a confirmed vintage example. The girl passed all vintage indicator tests which can be applied, so she gets to play Mom.


Spaceboy with dubious colorful cronies from Prudhoe. Looking like a power pop Space Menudo trio.


Hey! and they're Off to the Brewpub. Told ya that's a girl.

Wednesday, February 3, 2021

Swoppet Spaceman Update February 2021: Marx Toys Used Three Paint Colors for their Equipment Vests? and What's Up with the Yellow Faces??

EDIT 032121 Had the page title misspwelled as "Swopped Space Man Update" for six weeks thanks to autocorrection, never noticed.

 




The "Zombie" pose with arms out, with examples by Marx Toys (front left), Cherilea Toys (blue figure with yellow pack at center) and others/unknowns (everything else).


Our control sample grouping of three Marx figures. The specimens to the right boasting a rarely seen Marx Toys logo on the outer side of his belt.


The specimen at center had this vestigial marking on the outside of his belt. Looks like a W followed by an A, and my guess is that it was meant to say TAIWAN where Marx was known to have done some fabricating or packaging of these figures.


The figure with the W and A, which has been my favorite of them all -- He looks like he was someone's toy back in 1967. An issue I've never considered as this is my only example thereof, is that some Marx swopped spacemen have yellow faces and it makes me wonder; Was that some (hopefully) well-intentioned designer trying to connect with Asian markets?


The three new arrivals. Middle guy has a very yellow face and the other two share those attributes the control samples boast: Rubberized equipment packs with painted details using three colors, painted feet/boots using two colors (blue figure defies that rule) and the white figure also has painted gloves.

Tuesday, April 14, 2020

SWOPPETS UPDATE! Marx Toys Logos on Vintage "Swoppet" Style Spaceman & Unmarked Swoppet Spacemen in the Marx Style





Side effect of the Covid-2020 Lockdown "Life On Pause" phenomenon is finally having time to really look at some of the toy forms I've obtained over the past year and a half. And something which managed to slip my attention is a Marx Toys logo which tuned up on the equipment pack of this fellow above. I'd obtained him within the past 90 days but others which had been in my collection for a while are also thusly marked. Twist (for me, at least, still on the learning curve part of Marx and space figure collecting) is that many more examples from my 38 piece collection of loose "swoppet" style spacemen bear all the other hallmarks of a Marx Toys swoppet, but lack a logo stamp on their equipment pack.


Those hitherto common Marx Toys "swoppet" spaceman attributes be:

1) Pod Feet rather than a fitted base.
2) Equipment packs cast in rubber with painted details.
3) Painted details also on weapons, tools & boots.
4) Cast in a stiff vinyl type plastic rather than your standard Army Man plastic.

Cherilea swoppet spacemen have no painted details and have feet which peg into separate base plates. Later copies made for cake decorations likewise have unpainted details but pod feet and typically cast in Army Man plastic.


This guy has pod feet, an equipment pack cast in rubber with painted details, his cosmic ray detector has painted details as do his boots, and a Marx logo. What in Sam Hill???


Upon closer inspection of my box of swoppet style spacemen, I have four of them which have rubber cast equipment packs with painted details strapped onto them. My presumption on their age is that all were made 1968 or earlier. Psychedelic Era spaceman figures, which helps explain why they are so freaked-out looking. I never had any of these as a kid but do recall encountering them at a friend's house and being profoundly disturbed by how different they were than the NASA image derived spaceman figures I had at home. These were like insects, spindly and exaggerated in their poses rather than standing stiffly at attention in an EVA pressure suit.


I had been under the presumption that other than random Made in Hong Kong markings, swoppet style spacemen were usually not logo marked by their makers. The bases for earlier Cherilea swoppet spacemen may have been, I have no examples in my collection which are, and had never read or picked up anywhere prior that Marx's swoppet spacemen are (or sometimes are) marked on their equipment packs.

It's an attribute to look for when shopping for your swoppet style spaceman figures in the same way that the bases on Cherilea spacemen are distinctive to their product. Curve ball being that not all swoppet style spacemen with the five attributes noted above bear equipment packs with a Marx logo. Were they specimens which Marx "farmed out" after the mid/late 60s demand for their unique skein of swoppet spacemen petered out? Are the logo marks specific to certain packaging ranges? And why do some bear no markings on them at all?


Left: Marx logo on equipment pack.
Right: "Made in Hong Kong" on pack with no logo.


A closer look at the yellow dude's pack. Made In 


Hong Kong. I love the rusty look to the O2 hose. This is not a knockoff copy. Did Marx simply stop logo marking their swoppet style spaceman equipment packs at some point?


Left: Logo marked equipment pack.
Right: Equipment pack marked "Made In Hong Kong."

All other attributes identical except the body plastic. On the left, stiff translucent vinyl. Right, a more flexible vinyl.




The four figures in my stash who have the logo markings on their packs. I know that Marx used them on the box art for their "Hill Climbing Moon Train" set dated to 1968. They also packed them on blister cards and in window box sets. Rule of thumb I had picked up is that Cherilea originated the swoppet style spaceman in or around 1962 and that Marx's version came later. Would be delighted to learn exactly when, and figure out if there is a way to ascertain the relative year given Marx produced swoppet style spacemen may have been produced. Just, well, to be able to do it.


Left: Logo marked equipment pack.
Right: No markings at all.


Left: Logo marked equipment pack.
Right: "Made In Hong Kong"


One other item is that their packs vary, or at least the guy with the red belt has a different pack than the other two, all of which are logo marked with painted details. Am hoping that further information on this fascinating subject arises, and will bring it here on the spot. STAY HOME!!