Sunday, August 4, 2019

SPACE BUCKET SUNDAY: Comparing Hing Fat Space Playmats, Flags & LEM Vehicles by "Awesome Kids" (Mid 80s) and "Daron Worldwide Trading (New)




Spent some of SPACE BUCKET SUNDAY! examining the playmat surfaces which accompany these Hing Fat "Space Astronaut" bucket sets. I have two examples, one from the mid 80s by "Awesome Kids", a company I have had very little luck in searching, and the new one from "Daron Worldwide Trading" as part of their Space Adventure Series 20 piece Space Exploration set. And an evolution of the miraculous Lunar Terrain features + playmat Marx Toys used for "Operation Moon Base" in 1962. I am confident their are earlier examples of the concept including those from sets depicting Earthbound activities.

Playmats are usually intended to be the surface onto which the toy forms are placed, but an interesting attribute of Hing Fat's approach is an option for users to arrange it as a readymade diorama stage by having the "sky" fixed to an upright surface i.e. wall and the lunar landscape spread out before it. Most playmats I have seen are either just surface features or a star field. Somebody was thinking when they cooked up this idea, a distinction which applies to a lot of what went into the original Space Bucket kit design.

BTW: Browser spwellcheck keeps trying to correct "playmat" with "playmate" ... and yeah, I'd rather think about those too. Apologies if the syntax error persists beyond my ability to manually correct the auto-correction.


Top: Daron Worldwide, with Hing Fat credit.
Bottom: Awesome Kids with their credit at lower right.

Same basic design with some interesting differences. The one thing both share is the same lunar mountain horizon: Identical on both mats, as is the basic orange/yellow coloring for the moon surface. But Hing Fat reduced the size of the mat and re-worked its surface detailing for the sky and moon.


The Awesome Kids set playmat has a purple space sky with a more detailed lunar surface. I believe its proportions are also somewhat more square-like.


If you can find any info on them give me a shout. One goal would be to simply know what they called their Space Bucket set to try and find a vintage example which is still sealed. Millions of units of these bucket sets were churned out over the years since they first appeared but it is very very rare to find still-sealed examples dating before 1990 and (so far) impossible to find them dated before 1980. My suspicion is that due to their regarded cheapness a lot of unsold Space Bucket stock was simply discarded for landfill, though it also lends credence to the claim that the form only originated at Hing Fat's 1980 founding. Not so sure over here as I had one as a kid in the early 70s, or at least had the same vehicles as issued in more contemporaneously manufactured Space Bucket sets. 

Did it include a playmat?? I think so but harvesting that kind of memory 46 years down the road is a tough egg to crack. It probably did as the familiarity of the playmat concept is robust enough to recognize having had one. Probably.


The Daron Worldwide set's playmat has a blue space sky with better detailed planetary painting but far less surface detailing to the moonscape. Smoothed out.



LEM vehicles & flat pieces. The flag on pile of rocks form goes back to Marx Civil War and Battleground era Army Man sets, but to my knowledge it is not included in any of their space sets depicting activity on other planetary surfaces. They did have a flag on a simple stick for "Operation Moon Base" but it was rectangular in shape and did not have a pile of rocks to stand it in.

Video notes how the fit of the bits on the LEMs is different and examines the plastic used for the detailing components. But I neglected to mention how the emblems on the sides of the vehicle are tampo printed on the new Daron LEM, simple decal stickers on the Awesome Kids LEM. The two top ascent stage sections are also not interchangeable with their bases, and the upper section of the dome has been re-shaped.


Left: Daron Worldwide.
Right: Awesome Kids

With 1960s Marx produced "Swoppet" style plug head guy, whom I'd kept out from earlier in the day. Maybe he becomes the personification of my Space Buckets guy. Gotta be from Italy or something like that. Has an accent.


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ISN'T THIS EXCITING! as Mr. Polichemi would say upon realizing our chemistry class was thinking about anything else. Or asleep. And by my eye the "new" lander from Daron is about a hair width taller than the older lander, its dome somewhat narrowed as well. 


Pretty sure. Will get out the micrometer in a future post of barely-restrained excitement.


Space Bucket Sandro. From Tirol, accounting for a mixed Italian and German accent ... "VEE TAKE ALL ZE ASTRONAUWGHTS AND FEET THEM INTO A BEEG BUCKET. AND SO VEE CALL IT ZE SPACE BUCKETS" he says, foam flecking from his lips. With DVD case by Allsop.

How the heck did those guys end up in the lexicon of Marx space toys?? Plastic item in front of him is a cap from a water bottle I'm going to make into a space helmet for my Tootsie Toy Major Mars figure ... Wish I could remember which bottled water so I can go get a dozen more. This is fun!

Is It Marx, Or Is It MPC? And Is "MPC" Marx?? Comparing Plastic Spaceman Figures 1962 - 1972


So back again to this issue of the misconception of just who was responsible for spaceman figures like the one shown above. Easily identifiable as a likely mid-60s Made in Hong Kong variant on the Geiger Counter Guy pose associated with plastics toy company MPC, a stub of sprue remnant still decorating the top of his helmet. Believed to have been originated by MPC as early as 1963 for their "Fireball XL-5" toy sets and continued after that range's demise but I could be wrong on that: They may have arrived at the form prior to the Fireball toys and simply included it in those sets to fill em up with spacemen. Please sound off in comments or message if you can issue a verdict -- "I gots to know ..."



The authenticating MPC stamp on bottom along with a number, indicating he was part of a "matched set". Common misconception is that the MPC means "Marx Plastics Company" and the form attributed to Marx. Further delving into the culture of collecting this stuff reveals MPC to mean "Multiple Products Company", often mis-phrased as "Multiple Plastics Company" and often confused with "Multiple Toymakers". If my understanding of the flow chart outlining the different Hong Kong based space toy companies is correct, Marx, MPC and Multiple Toymakers are all distinctly different companies. They made toys which resembled each others' creations, and these MPC spacemen resemble Marx's "Operation Moon Base" figures closely enough to confuse the untrained eye as to which was manufactured by whom. 


Believe it or not, this is a Marx Toys spaceman from the middle 60s -- albeit with his equipment pack on backwards to make his face visible -- derived from the Cherilea / Britains "Swoppet" spaceman designs with removable plug-heads & equipment packs. To lower production cost Marx replaced the Cherilea / Britains stand with pod feet and pressed this figure in a softer semi-flexible vinyl type plastic with certain features then hand-painted, though some were hard plastic castings with no painted features. Other Hong Kong toy companies made their own Swoppet derived pod foot spacemen which were pressed in a harder plastic. I've been meaning to get out my Swoppet guys to look em over, try to figure out a formula to discern which came from what company. Which may be a lost cause as one can still find them new/sealed as cake topping decorations dated to the early 80s. They persisted for that long.


Left: Marx "Operation Moon Base" leaping guy pose, 1962 owner painted.
Center: Marx pod foot Plug Head, mid to late 60s.
Left: Marx Apollo EVA figure believed to be from "Giant Martian Landing" set, 1972.
On the Rock: MPC Geiger Counter guy, mid 60s.

One point of the image is to demonstrate how between the Moon Base dude and the orange Apollo guy, Marx' only other of the spaceman figure series from the 1960s was the guys like the one behind the rock. Marx did not make the MPC spacemen. They were a different company and their logo stamp not an acronym for Marx toy production. 

Saturday, August 3, 2019

HG Toys Triang Spacex/Golden Astronaut "Pleasure Cruiser" Vehicle Copy, In Gold




I agree with the sentiment that collecting copies & knockoffs of brand name toy forms can be just as fascinating. Recognized what this was instantly and bit. Click here to visit Commodore Vreede's Triang Spacex Golden Astronaut website's info page on how this marvel came to be.

And click here for the site's information page on the original vehicle. One of the harder nuts to crack among the "basic" Sx/GA vehicle fleet.


US penny for scale.


Correct markings and wheels intact. Counting the acquisition as a score, and can't wait to pose it for some space art pix with the Marx Toys spaceship copies from Mexico.




Marx Apollo Creek Float guy is impressed. Let's take her for a spin.

Thursday, August 1, 2019

Hing Fat "Astronaut Bucket" Figure Comparisons: New (from Daron Worldwide) Vs "Vintage" Figures


Finally had a minute to look at the figures from this 20 piece Daron Worldwide Ltd. "Space Adventure Series" Astronaut Bucket set, and it got interesting quick.


Figures cast in a very light plastic, waxy looking surface but harder than almost all of the other gray HF spacemen in my stash. They "clinked" when emptying the bucket onto the tabletop. All the others  thud. No pilot figure either, which might make sense for this set as there was no rover vehicle. Still, darn.


Sloppy seam fit and untrimmed sprue remnant.


The "Made In China" text looks irregular, like it was stamped into the mould by hand, and then something scratched out underneath.


Left: New.
Right: Mid 80s white casting.

Both have about the same hardness to their plastic.


White figure only marked "China" on bottom and it looks like a scroll rather than individually stamped letters.


Left: New.
Right: (Suspected) 1970s casting from a matched/numbered set.

Older guy has skinnier legs and is about a 1/8th of a head smaller.


Top: New
Bottom: 70s

Bottom text in even scroll, number placed above text.


Left: New
Right: Unknown suspected recently made figure.


Top: New.
Bottom: Unknown recent.

Marker dot added to distinguish which is which. These two appear almost identical.


Left: New.
Right: Unknown, 80s or 90s (based on what it came with).


Top: New.
Bottom: Unknown, 80s or 90s (based on what it came with).

He and the blue guy below are the only Hing Fat astronauts in my collection who do not have any markings on the base. The rest all have "China" or "Made In China", the suspected older ones numbered as well.


Left: Unknown blue casting obtained from French based vendor.
Center: New
Right: Suspected 70s from a matched/numbered set.

Note difference in facial characteristics, detailing to boots/rope/helmet/uniform folds. New figure much less sharply defined and both he + the blue guy about 1/4 a head taller than the suspected 70s figure, who is also facing forward. The other two face down. They both also have a single round "node" on their chests where the older guy has a detailed chest unit.


Order of above flipped. One of the things I've concluded is that the astronauts are cast in the same mould as the gray vehicle pieces, and I can't help but wonder if the French equivalents of these sets have blue Lunar Module fixtures??? Or maybe the whole LEM is blue? Man that would be cool ...


Very different sculpting, type of plastic used, and figurative aura to them. One on the right grittier, the other "softer" looking. No other way to describe it, and look at how different their faces are rendered. Were they by the same artist??


Will look them over closer & share more. This is fun!

Daron Worldwide Trading "Space Adventure Series" 20 Piece Hing Fat SPACE BUCKET SET! from TinToyArcade.com



My Space Buckets character inspired by the scene from "Monty Python's The Meaning of Life" when John Cleese's waiter asks the diner if he'd prefer to have his selections served individually? or all mixed up in a bucket. Which is what they do with these Hing Fat toy sets, in a way. Mix spacemen, space craft and terrain features up into a big bucket kids can store them in between sessions.


This bucket release by Daron Worldwide Trading Inc. obtained from TinToyArcade.com ($18 shipped: look for their free 1st time shipping coupon code) is a bit light with 20 pieces -- 13 astronauts, one shuttle, one lunar lander, one flag with stand, one playmat -- but is a key to understanding how these sets are generated. Hing Fat presses the plastics at the plant on mainland China, sells the pieces in bulk from their Hong Kong headquarters to companies like Daron who specialize in repackaging other people's product, and they then select a bucket form with their own packaging art which does not mention where the plastics came from. Tip-off being the HING FAT TOY copyright on the mat.


I spent some time last week on the internet trying to find other sealed/new examples of the Space Bucket form and this is the only current issuing I was able to find using ordinary search methods. All others including the 65 piece SCS Direct "Big Bucket of Astronauts" appear to have been discontinued or marked as sold out / unavailable. Which makes me wonder: Does Hing Fat maybe churn out a warehouse full of these every couple four years and only press them when stocks run low? Would help explain certain attributes like the varying type of plastics used from set to set, the change in markings or other subtle differences which were adopted between pours.


One fascinating quirk with this set is that when compared to the LEM lander vehicle from the used set I've had since winter allegedly produced in the mid 80s is that their ascent stages are not interchangeable.



Left: "New" LEM
Right: Mid 80s.


The peg marks have been re-positioned, and the top step in the "dome" which crowns the ascent stage with its rabbit eared antennae has been widened. The newer LEM pieces also don't fit as snugly, with the thruster bits actually rattling when shaken. The older LEM doesn't, but it also doesn't have that funky mechanical looking decal on the descent stage face plate, so I'll take it.


Wish they'd gone with a Lunar Roving Vehicle rather than a Space Shuttle, which never went to the moon but was probably cheaper for Daron's acquisition of the bulk components. The current flag also features a decal on one side only, as do two of the other three flags in my stash. The only one with decals on both sides was the flag which came with the "Lot" acquisition which included the lander & rover vehicles believed to be from the mid 80s.


Ehhh ...


MAIL CALL: Captain Video Lido Spaceships, Miniature Army Man Trucks, and Mint On Card Golden Astronaut "Mobile Moon HQ"




Geiger Counter guy believed to be a Multiple Toymakers copy of the Timmee Toys figure, reduced to about 1.5 inches. Pretty sure the green train vehicle is complete and am in love with that blue figure. Smaller spaceships cast in a flexible plastic are unknowns.




Quarter for scale -- Teensy things! both marked "Hong Kong" and "666" (or maybe it's GGG?) on bottoms, no date known.


Had to have 'em! My first light truck too.




And remember, it's performance art. Subtle, no half naked people doing weird things with techno music blaring, subject is opening mail, but it's performance. Will get some pix of the space plastics together pronto.


Lido guys in practice, with Hing Fat Space Bucket rocket.


... Looks like a hostage situation ...